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Jan Andrew Bloxham's avatar

An extensive list that still leaves plenty of things unsaid, many of which (also) seal our fate.

Saving for a collapsing world (where financial collapse will be the first stage) makes zero sense; thank you for pointing that out.

On a side note, renewables cannot save us for a dozen different reasons - I open this post with that https://open.substack.com/pub/gnug315/p/our-planet-sized-gordian-knot

We’re on a locked-in trajectory for all kinds of systemic reasons, and accelerating rather than degrowing. Our state of Overshoot will end in us come crashing down. We see no signs of changing our Business As Usual approach.

It’s worth mentioning that it’s all downhill from 2050 as everything just keeps getting worse.

I Are Really Us's avatar

And for why doesn’t anyone give a F about people living in 2150, 2200, 2300? Is it because it’s on them - either their technology solves it or civilization is done?

Maree Quinn's avatar

Thank you. I’ve been thinking and refreshing my five year and ten year plans. Largely tearing them up, really. The 2050 focus makes tangible those things that are largely ignored or invisible by denial, particularly in political thinking and action. 25 years out, is also a scale that renders climate breakdown and tipping points more pertinent, more real, and more personal to think about in terms of where you think you might be and what the world may be like. It’s not going to be BAU. For you or your family, community, or country. Sobering.

Tom Harris's avatar

Thank you. I completely agree with you.